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I, AABb1221, on behalf of users of Chinese Antimony Wiki, request to **remove the admin right of User:Sxlzr444**, the main admin of Chinese Antimony Wiki. The impeach vote went through. The only scarcely active bureaucrat, User:Canis Major, didn’t reply to my appeal.

The protest against Sxlzr444 have lasted for nearly two months. So large is the amount of details that it is impossible to completely list all of them. This is a brief abstract of the event happened on Chinese Antimony Wiki in the past two months:

On 2024.5.19, Sxlzr444 blocked me, a senior contributor of Chinese Antimony Wiki. The reason is “contacting real politics to superscience (the theme of the wiki)”, describing the content added firstly by me, added again by two other users, which listed Nations of Antimonia WIki as “other websites related to superscience”. Several users thought that of unreasonable.

On 6.7, I released the blog _discussion on the disturbance happened to Antimony Wiki recently_, putting forward many question against the policy of Chinese Antimony Wiki, claiming that I did that in order to prevent Antimony Wiki from the vortex of non-democracy, if the conflict can’t be solved by discussion, I would solve it through voting. Soon, Sxlzr444 refused to discuss more, then I did that.

On 6.22, the vote to unblock me went through **unanimously** (8 affirmative votes, 0 abstention vote and 0 negative vote). Admin User:别杀咧拜仁谢谢你巴萨 unblocked me. Few hours later, **Sxlzr444 blocked me again, ignoring the consensus of community**, which caused serious dissatisfaction from several active users (specifically, I、Hydrogen Sulfide、氢氰酸、Zzethld、PandaFiredoge (if this one was)), with the reason of “Discussion outside of Antimony Wiki has no effect on Antimony Wiki”. Then Sxlzr444 started another discussion on Chinese Antimony Wiki and unblocked me according to its result.

Then admin 别杀咧拜仁谢谢你巴萨 decided to amend the _Community Standard of Antimony_ _Wiki_, first time after the time it was formulated three years ago. Then Sxlzr444 and me argued a lot on the policy.

On 7.25, after several extensions, the vote to impeach Sxlzr444 went through.

Many users have protested against Sxlzr444 during all this time.

The summary of accusation against Sxlzr444 is as follow:

  • Blocking me with a wrong reason firstly, because true, objective and obvious relation has been existed between superscience and Nations of Antimonia WIki;
  • Making sophistry and assuming bad faith when debating with me;
  • Making self-contradictory statements, even after pointing out;
  • Fabricating rule “Discussion outside of Antimony Wiki has no effect on Antimony Wiki”, which have never been confirmed by democratic procedures/community consensus, written or executed actually, even against the rule of Fandom (the admin impeach votes on community central are effective to wikis).
  • Rejecting democracy and community consensus by the rule fabricated.
  • Being stubborn, not reasonable and avoiding questioning.
  • Slandering me by accusing him of “partial neglect, misinterpretation, improper extension, tampering, defamation” and “assuming bad faith”.
  • Breaking his own promise by promising “Antimony Wiki welcomes users to discuss”, but he still deleted much normal discussion on this event.
  • Claiming that I made edit war, although himself/herself made much more serious edit war according to the same standard. On the page where I added the content caused the blocking, Sxlzr444 deleted that content repeatedly seven times (six reverting), while I added three times (two reverting and one creating page) (Maybe I was wrong making edit war).
  • Talking nonsense. Sxlzr444 said that the old consensus on the definition of superscience still exists, although it had been denied by vote **unanimously** among the users of Chinese Antimony Wiki, as a big part of superscience community, just because the vote didn’t happen on the website.
  • Calling normal and reasonable opinions of other users as “disinformation”.

(Because accusations above involves many details in the argument that are really hard to find, time-consuming and laborious to translate, some of them are not explained and/or attached with evidence. If you want more information, you can only browse the related Chinese pages and read them in machine translate visions. I apologize for that. Because of my habit of frequently citing, you can know most of the event by browsing all the pages the links in this four pages pointing to. The four pages are all mainly written by myself, maybe you will think that this is not objective, but Sxlzr444 hasn’t response to me in concentrated way, so there are no pages presenting his or her opinions generally to be provided.)

To sum up, **Sxlzr444 is absolutely not a eligible admin**, but one who should be **impeached**.

I sincerely request Fandom to remove the admin right of User:Sxlzr444, executing **the will of community**.

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Hello,

Please provide a link to a recent (within the last 2 weeks) vote where the wiki community reached consensus to demote User:Sxlzr444.

Kimberton 🌈

Customer Support Specialist

She/Her

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Here it is:https://community.fandom.com/zh/wiki/User:AABb1221/%E5%85%B3%E4%BA%8E%E9%94%91%E6%98%9F%E7%99%BE%E7%A7%91%E8%BF%91%E6%97%A5%E5%8F%91%E7%94%9F%E9%A3%8E%E6%B3%A2%E7%9A%84%E6%8A%95%E7%A5%A8

It seems that there is some kind of technical problem. I added more than 20 links in the appeal as evidence of the accusations, but all of them were lost. The bold and Italic words were not analyzed as wikitext.

Here are the four most important links:

https://community.fandom.com/zh/wiki/%E7%94%A8%E6%88%B7%E5%8D%9A%E5%AE%A2:AABb1221/%E5%85%B3%E4%BA%8E%E9%94%91%E6%98%9F%E7%99%BE%E7%A7%91%E8%BF%91%E6%97%A5%E5%8F%91%E7%94%9F%E9%A3%8E%E6%B3%A2%E7%9A%84%E8%AE%A8%E8%AE%BA

https://community.fandom.com/zh/wiki/User:AABb1221/%E5%85%B3%E4%BA%8E%E9%94%91%E6%98%9F%E7%99%BE%E7%A7%91%E8%BF%91%E6%97%A5%E5%8F%91%E7%94%9F%E9%A3%8E%E6%B3%A2%E7%9A%84%E6%8A%95%E7%A5%A8

https://community.fandom.com/zh/wiki/User_talk:AABb1221/%E5%85%B3%E4%BA%8E%E9%94%91%E6%98%9F%E7%99%BE%E7%A7%91%E8%BF%91%E6%97%A5%E5%8F%91%E7%94%9F%E9%A3%8E%E6%B3%A2%E7%9A%84%E6%8A%95%E7%A5%A8

https://community.fandom.com/zh/wiki/User:AABb1221/%E7%9C%9F%E9%94%91%E6%98%9F%E7%99%BE%E7%A7%91%E5%8F%B2

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None of those took place on the wiki. Elections must take place on the wiki where the admin has admin rights so that the wiki community can vote.

Kimberton 🌈

Customer Support Specialist

She/Her

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One user tried to start the vote on the wiki (https://antimony.fandom.com/zh/wiki/%E9%94%91%E6%98%9F%E7%99%BE%E7%A7%91_talk:%E7%AE%A1%E7%90%86%E5%91%98?oldid=66711%EF%BC%89), but the adimn Sxlzr444 deleted it (https://antimony.fandom.com/zh/wiki/%E9%94%91%E6%98%9F%E7%99%BE%E7%A7%91_talk:%E7%AE%A1%E7%90%86%E5%91%98?diff=next&oldid=66712). Or in other words, admin obstructed the impeach vote. The pre-volunteer, User:铁桶, said that according to the instruction of Fandom staff, if there are legitimate reasons such as admin/bureaucrat obstructs discussion, the community is allowed to start overt discussion or vote on community central(https://community.fandom.com/zh/wiki/User_talk:AABb1221/%E5%85%B3%E4%BA%8E%E9%94%91%E6%98%9F%E7%99%BE%E7%A7%91%E8%BF%91%E6%97%A5%E5%8F%91%E7%94%9F%E9%A3%8E%E6%B3%A2%E7%9A%84%E6%8A%95%E7%A5%A8). All the users who have voted were active users of Chinese Antimony Wiki (you can check it yourself), and all active users who hadn't vote at first were noticed on community central by message wall (for example, here:https://community.fandom.com/zh/wiki/%E7%95%99%E8%A8%80%E5%A2%99:%E9%BB%84%E9%87%91%E4%B9%8B%E9%A3%8E?threadId=4400000000000084432).

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I have given User:Sxlzr444 a global block for abuse of power for removing the vote. In the time they are blocked you will need to hold a vote on the wiki if you want us to take action on it.

User:铁桶 is not Fandom Staff and while I appreciate their effort to allow a free election, the vote does need to take place on the wiki where the changes are meant to be enacted.

Since User:Sxlzr444 has been blocked for more than the required week for a vote to take place, there should be no reason why an election can't take place on the wiki now to allow all users to vote.

Kimberton 🌈

Customer Support Specialist

She/Her

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In order to eliminate possible misleading, I illustrate the situation here.

User:B7qwr4cz, the starter of the impeach vote reverted by Sxlzr444 above, is a sockpuppet of User:PandaFiredoge, who is usually described as a vandal. He did serious vandalism before indeed, although he haven't done anything that should be described as vandalism in this event. He claims that he had reflected on his acts deeply, but he still did vandalism soon. He is unlikely to really cleans up act. Some of his sockpuppets are blocked globally. He has made some contribution mainly in technical field. He had no right to start a vote or participate in community affairs according to the rules of Chinese Antimony Wiki, and seemingly Fandom policy.

This doesn't mean that any impeach vote is made by vandal. If he didn't start the vote, I would.

Because of this, Sxlzr444 said on a site closely related to Antimony Wiki that I defamed him or her, attacked him or her with bad faith, distorted facts, worked hand in glove with a vandal, so he or she had submitted an appeal to Fandom (https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9113604909, https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9113906071).

If Sxlzr444 is unblocked, the betting is that a real free election can't be held.

If it is possible, I suggest you to communicate with the staff who handle the appeal of Sxlzr444.

By the way, there are some questions: Should I submit subsequent requests here if the vote goes through, or I should submit another request? Will the request channel be closed if I doesn't submit new requests for a week?

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Update: Here is the link of the new impeach vote: https://antimony.fandom.com/zh/wiki/%E9%94%91%E6%98%9F%E7%99%BE%E7%A7%91_talk:%E7%AE%A1%E7%90%86%E5%91%98%E5%BC%B9%E5%8A%BE%E6%8A%95%E7%A5%A8/Sxlzr444

The bureaucrat Canis Major finally appears, and seems to recognize the legality of the new vote: https://antimony.fandom.com/zh/wiki/%E7%95%99%E8%A8%80%E5%A2%99:Canis_Major?threadId=4400000000000042312

Sxlzr444 speaks here: https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9115861096

In view of Sxlzr444's accusations against me, there is a great possibility that he or she will block me the third time.

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贴吧用户_aVUEUMX is me; 最爱九九 is Sxlzr444; Xtmfd=Firedoge=PandaFiredoge.

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You are welcome to send a link to the vote after one week on 9 August. You are not blocked on the wiki and I cannot take action on behavior or statements made off of Fandom.

Kimberton 🌻

Customer Support Specialist

She/Her